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Who is the main character of "Aladdin"?
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[quote="Ariellen"][quote="Calluna"]The first one that showed actual animation was... I want to say...Pocahontas? I have that tape at my parents' house and can't check. But I think that was the one that showed Al's bleeding arm that got edited out, right?[/quote] You know, I can't remember what the first one with a trailer with animation and scenes was...Pocahontas is probably right. *very tempted to watch a lot of Disney videos from the general time frame of 1995-early 1996 to see if I can remember on which one I saw it first* This is killing me because I know I watched SOMETHING with the bleeding arm trailer not that long ago, and can't remember what it was![/quote]
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<table border="0" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" width="100%" class="forumline"> <tr> <th class="thCornerL" width="22%" height="26">Author</th> <th class="thCornerR">Message</th> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>AmethystFae</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 8:44 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span> <table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"> <tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Calluna wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"></span> <table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"> <tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>AladdinsGenie wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">It's almost a gamble on mentioning it without wondering if he'll get mad. I was holding my breath when they were giving him his Golden Globe Award a few years ago when they did <span style="font-style: italic">an entire sequence</span> dedicated to his movies and role of Genie using "Friend Like Me" in the background <img src="images/smiles/icon_lol.gif" alt="Laughing" border="0" /></td> </tr> </table> <span class="postbody">Yeah, he gets very... defensive about that for some reason. Even before Katzenburg went back on their deal he was acting like that. <img src="images/smiles/icon_lol.gif" alt="Laughing" border="0" /></td> </tr> </table> <span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />Maybe because he doesn't want to be type-casted? But Genie was awesome, and everybody knows that there's more to Robin Williams than Genie. I love most of his movies. (I say most, because there's probably some I haven't seen.) And of course, they'd play "Friend Like Me." What else would they play? <br /> <br />~Hikaru</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Ariellen</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2006 7:19 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">It definitely is on the Pocahontas VHS, which was released in...March? 1996. That's probably where I saw it first... <br /> <br />And I finally remembered that the other place I'd recently seen it was on the "Magic and Mystery" volume of the Princess Collection VHS tapes; I was needing a Secret of Dagger Rock/Forget Me Lots fix.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>persian85033</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2006 4:28 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">I can't remember too well, but I think it was Homeward Bouond II:Lost in San Francisco. <img src="images/smiles/icon_confused.gif" alt="Confused" border="0" /></span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Ariellen</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2006 10:50 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span> <table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"> <tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Calluna wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">The first one that showed actual animation was... I want to say...Pocahontas? I have that tape at my parents' house and can't check. But I think that was the one that showed Al's bleeding arm that got edited out, right?</td> </tr> </table> <span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />You know, I can't remember what the first one with a trailer with animation and scenes was...Pocahontas is probably right. *very tempted to watch a lot of Disney videos from the general time frame of 1995-early 1996 to see if I can remember on which one I saw it first* This is killing me because I know I watched SOMETHING with the bleeding arm trailer not that long ago, and can't remember what it was!</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Calluna</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2006 10:35 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span> <table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"> <tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Disney Princess wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">And then when the first teaser came out...I was SO excited to see a trailer that started with just the Aladdin title logo...bouncing up and down "THIS IS IT, STUFF ABOUT THE NEW MOVIE!!!!!!!"...and "Now, you're favorite characters are back in the final chapter, Aladdin and the King of Thieves! Coming Only to Video!" "This is IT?! This is what we came all the way down here to..." It was crushing!</td> </tr> </table> <span class="postbody">The first one that showed actual animation was... I want to say...Pocahontas? I have that tape at my parents' house and can't check. But I think that was the one that showed Al's bleeding arm that got edited out, right?</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>APK</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2006 10:10 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span> <table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"> <tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Quote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">Initially, Williams enjoyed these compliments -- until he realized that people were saying that his very best work was in a cartoon, a medium that only made use of an actor's voice, not his face. This is the sort of thing that can really start to bug a guy who studied at Juilliard. </td> </tr> </table> <span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />Aww <img src="images/smiles/icon_sad.gif" alt="Sad" border="0" /> But that's nothing to be upset over these days! People look at voice actors and animation much differently than they did before. (mostly thanks to Disney) I consider voice acting equally important as acting in live movies. I would love to do voice work in a cartoon (as long as the character was cool <img src="images/smiles/icon_wink.gif" alt="Wink" border="0" /> )</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Ariellen</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2006 9:23 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span> <table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"> <tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Calluna wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">KoT in 1995 - Maybe they originally entered it when the release date was first announced and then never updated it? <img src="images/smiles/icon_lol.gif" alt="Laughing" border="0" /> (I still have ads that came with some of my old Disney tapes that have a 1995 release date for KoT on them...)</td> </tr> </table> <span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />I'll buy that explanation. <img src="images/smiles/icon_smile.gif" alt="Smile" border="0" /> <br /> <br />I don't remember if I have any of the paper booklets anymore (don't think so), but I remember first hearing about it because it appeared in the ad that came in The Lion King VHS case (ca. March '95) and being SO excited that it would be out that summer...and then there was no teaser trailer or anything on the VHS itself! I was so bummed to hear it was delayed. <br /> <br />And then when the first teaser came out...I was SO excited to see a trailer that started with just the Aladdin title logo...bouncing up and down "THIS IS IT, STUFF ABOUT THE NEW MOVIE!!!!!!!"...and "Now, you're favorite characters are back in the final chapter, Aladdin and the King of Thieves! Coming Only to Video!" "This is IT?! This is what we came all the way down here to..." It was crushing!</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>AladdinsGenie</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2006 6:09 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span> <table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"> <tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Disney Princess wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"> <br />1997- Great Minds Think for Themselves (it lists this as a TV series, which sort of makes me laugh a little; they list him as "The Genie"...AG, go at it! <img src="images/smiles/icon_razz.gif" alt="Razz" border="0" />)</td> </tr> </table> <span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />*stabbity stab stabs 'the'* <img src="images/smiles/icon_lol.gif" alt="Laughing" border="0" /></span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Calluna</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2006 3:33 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">I haven't seen AI in years; I <span style="font-style: italic">think</span> it was a talking computer, so I'm not sure which category that would fall under. But it was definitely a voice-only part. <br /> <br />KoT in 1995 - Maybe they originally entered it when the release date was first announced and then never updated it? <img src="images/smiles/icon_lol.gif" alt="Laughing" border="0" /> (I still have ads that came with some of my old Disney tapes that have a 1995 release date for KoT on them...)</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Ariellen</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2006 11:05 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">OK, because it was driving me crazy, I looked up all of Robin's voicework on IMDB. If anyone knows of any inaccuracies (b/c I haven't seen all of these and know that IMDB isn't always exactly, you know, right about stuff), do share your insights! (asterisks=theatrical releases) <br /> <br />From most recent...(saving all Aladdin stuff for its own section...) <br /> <br />*2005- "Fender" in Robots <br /> <br />*2001- "Dr. Know" in A.I. Artificial Intelligence (anyone see this? Was this an animatronic character or an animated character?) <br /> <br />1992- "Timekeeper" in the theme park attraction The Timekeeper (Le Visionarium" at DLRP...I feel this has to be the year the Paris version opened because I'm pretty sure that attraction didn't hit WDW until '95...) <br /> <br />*1992- "Batty Koda" in FernGully: The Last Rainforest <br /> <br />1991- "The Kiwi" in a TV...something...called A Wish For Things that Work <br /> <br />1990- Appeared in live action and as the voice of an animated lost boy in the "Back to Neverland" film in the old, good version of The Magic of Disney Animation attraction at MGM <br /> <br />And here are all his credits as Genie: <br /> <br />1992- Aladdin <br />1995- Aladdin on Ice (TV; uncredited) <br />"1995," aka 1996- Aladdin and the King of Thieves *kicks the website for that very glaring error* <br />1997- Great Minds Think for Themselves (it lists this as a TV series, which sort of makes me laugh a little; they list him as "The Genie"...AG, go at it! <img src="images/smiles/icon_razz.gif" alt="Razz" border="0" />) <br />1998- Aladdin's Math Quest (video game, listed as "Blue Genie")</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Ariellen</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2006 10:48 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Hey, even the Genie of the Messageboard is allowed to have a little bit of a memory lapse. <img src="images/smiles/icon_smile.gif" alt="Smile" border="0" /> <br /> <br />Thanks for sharing the article snippet again; hadn't read that one in a really long time so I was feeling shaky on specifics of that whole fallout, too. <img src="images/smiles/icon_smile.gif" alt="Smile" border="0" /></span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Calluna</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 11:34 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span> <table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"> <tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Disney Princess wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">Heather, I'm curious aboout your remark that he was acting defensive about the project even before the deal was broken...the "There's new info to learn here!" buzzer is going off in my mind, so could you share some more on that? /was too young to understand the details at the time and hasn't heard anything about this before</td> </tr> </table> <span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />Where was that article? Oh, here we go... <br /> <br /></span> <table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"> <tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Jim Hill wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">Then there was the performer's ambivalence toward all the praise Williams was receiving for his work in "Aladdin." Time and again, people would come up to Robin and tell him his performance in the animated film was his best thing he'd ever done. Initially, Williams enjoyed these compliments -- until he realized that people were saying that his very best work was in a cartoon, a medium that only made use of an actor's voice, not his face. This is the sort of thing that can really start to bug a guy who studied at Juilliard. <br /> <br />Williams' ambivalence toward "Aladdin" became public knowledge in February 1993, when he received a certificate of special achievement for his work in the film at the Golden Globes. As he went up on the stage, the clearly uncomfortable Robin didn't know what to say about this alleged honor. He jokingly asked the celebrities and foreign film critics assembled for the ceremony, "Is this like a coupon I can turn in to get a real award?"</td> </tr> </table> <span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />Although I remembered wrong, this was after the bus shelter ads that were supposedly an accident but before the ads that mentioned his Golden Globe which were what finally pissed him off enough that he said he'd never work for Disney again.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Ariellen</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 7:57 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span> <table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"> <tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>AladdinsGenie wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">Nah, I just think it goes back to that deal with Disney not going by his wishes not to blow Genie out of proportion, but they did so anyways.</td> </tr> </table> <span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />^ What she said. He did the project largely because "Ooh, wouldn't it be fun to be in a Disney movie...I could be in something my kids could see!" and ended up feeling that Disney betrayed, exploited, and cheated him. <br /> <br />Heather, I'm curious aboout your remark that he was acting defensive about the project even before the deal was broken...the "There's new info to learn here!" buzzer is going off in my mind, so could you share some more on that? /was too young to understand the details at the time and hasn't heard anything about this before</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>AladdinsGenie</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 3:38 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Nah, I just think it goes back to that deal with Disney not going by his wishes not to blow Genie out of proportion, but they did so anyways.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>persian85033</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 1:33 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Really? I thought he' d be pleased that people knew all his characters? Hmm. Maybe he just doesn't like it to be made a big deal cause...he wants to prove he's just an ordinary person, too. Or maybe he's a little insecure? Like asking him, if he was really the one who did Genie, getting defensive, cause maybe he thinks they're going to tell him it was rotten or something?</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> </table>
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