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<table border="0" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" width="100%" class="forumline"> <tr> <th class="thCornerL" width="22%" height="26">Author</th> <th class="thCornerR">Message</th> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>persian85033</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 1:30 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">And Aladdin is much better than Tarzan. Maybe we should go to Disney world and demand that Al not wear a shirt and shoes.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>AladdinsGenie</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 1:28 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Disney Princess and I were just talking about this. Tarzan gets to wear underwear and shoes, yet Aladdin has to wear a *shirt* and shoes? No. Fair. <img src="images/smiles/icon_lol.gif" alt="Laughing" border="0" /></span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>persian85033</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 1:24 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span> <table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"> <tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Hourglass wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"></span> <table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"> <tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Nez wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">Yeah, and why is Aladdin wearing shoes?</td> </tr> </table> <span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />Mmm... I like barefooted men.</td> </tr> </table> <span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />Me, too. Stupid Disney World. Why did they have to make him wear a dumb shirt and shoes.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Amadou</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 7:03 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Ah, ok. (phew! <img src="images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif" alt="Very Happy" border="0" /> I was afraid for her) Then she is just like me!</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>AladdinsGenie</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 5:41 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Well that doesn't necessarily mean she didn't go to sleep <img src="images/smiles/icon_lol.gif" alt="Laughing" border="0" />. It could mean she stayed up past her bed time or into the wee hours of the night instead of going to bed on time.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Amadou</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 5:12 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: Random Character Facts</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span> <table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"> <tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>AladdinsGenie wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"> <br />-Jasmine once stayed up for six weeks straight because she refused to go to bed when she was little (Series ep-"Hero With A Thousand Feathers") <br /></td> </tr> </table> <span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />I hardly believe that! 6 days at most, and yet you become absolutely ill and begin to see halucinations. 6 weeks of non-sleeping would kill her. Unless she is from another planet. It's just impossible. I was shoked when I heard it... I see now why she's not scared of all those monsters. She has practice</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Calluna</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 8:45 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span> <table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"> <tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Syera wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">No, that's "Abi." And I don't "abu" is ever used in "son-of" names. In all my experience, it's either been Ibn, Bin, or el. <br /> <br />For example. Siddig el Fadil's (or Alexander Siddig) son is Django el Siddig. Siddig el Fadil's father's first name is Fadil. Far as I can tell, el/al means "of."</td> </tr> </table> <span class="postbody">ibn or bin (just a different transliteration) is "son of", and abu is father of: <br /> <br /><a href="http://www.sca.org/heraldry/laurel/names/arabic-naming2.htm" target="_blank">http://www.sca.org/heraldry/laurel/names/arabic-naming2.htm</a> <br /> <br />Abi is just for when you want to use them both together. If you scroll down to where it says ARABIC NAMING PRACTICES that should explain it better than I can. <img src="images/smiles/icon_smile.gif" alt="Smile" border="0" /> <br /> <br />(Of course, they put the "abu" as the first thing in the name, whereas on sites that talk about modern naming practices they put it last. So it looks like that's something that's changed since that time...)</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Syera</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 8:09 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">No, that's "Abi." And I don't "abu" is ever used in "son-of" names. In all my experience, it's either been Ibn, Bin, or el. <br /> <br />For example. Siddig el Fadil's (or Alexander Siddig) son is Django el Siddig. Siddig el Fadil's father's first name is Fadil. Far as I can tell, el/al means "of."</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Calluna</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2005 11:35 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">My version defintiely called him Jafar. I will have to look it up... <br /> <br />Abu is father, I think. Or at least it's used as "father of" in names. So Cassim abu Aladdin, for instance.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Ariellen</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2005 10:19 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span> <table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"> <tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Syera wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"> <br /> <br />According to IMDb, the Popeye Aladdin came out in 1939 - that's the year Snow White came out, by the way.</td> </tr> </table> <span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />Actually, Snow White came out in 1937...</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Syera</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2005 9:56 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Actually, the vizier was never named. <br /> <br />By the way, here's one traditional version of Aladdin: <br /><a href="http://www.allthingsfrugal.com/aladdin.htm" target="_blank">http://www.allthingsfrugal.com/aladdin.htm</a> <br /> <br />And here's a version which actually gives the princess a name: <br /><a href="http://www.gutenberg.org/dirs/1/4/9/1/14916/14916-h/14916-h.htm#CHAPTER_V" target="_blank">http://www.gutenberg.org/dirs/1/4/9/1/14916/14916-h/14916-h.htm#CHAPTER_V</a> <br /> <br />Small wonder they simply decided to call her "Jasmine." "Buddir al Buddoor" was a bit of a mouthfull, no? And probably not very melodious to an American ear. <br /> <br />And speaking of names... <br /> <br />Aladdin - shortened form of "Ala-al-Din," meaning "nobility of faith." <br />Abu - I can't seem to find this one. <br />Jafar - "stream" or "rivulet." (Though we call 'em "creeks" where I live.) <br />Jasmine - the flower, of course. <br />Hamed - "the praised one." <br /> <br />On a sidenote, the name "Jafar" ended up meaning "riverblade" in a language I made up. This wasn't intentional. The word for blade was "cha" until I decided to do away with the CH sound in phonetics. This ended up with it being changed to "ja." (Adjectives, by the way, come after the nouns they modify, unlike in English.) "Riverblade" could very well refer to a stream.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Calluna</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2005 9:30 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span> <table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"> <tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Syera wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">It happened to be transliterated as "Mustapha" in the version I saw, but it's the same name.</td> </tr> </table> <span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />Er, yeah, that's what I meant. I wasn't trying to correct you; I just didn't notice that we were spelling it different ways. <img src="images/smiles/icon_redface.gif" alt="Embarassed" border="0" /> <br /> <br /></span> <table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"> <tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Syera wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">"Jafar," by the way, was also the name of a vizier who appears in several stories in The Arabian Nights. He actually existed, and ended up executed in a horrible manner. No surprise... I'm telling you, Jafar's boss was insane. "Do this in two days or I'll kill you." "Do that in a week or I'll kill you and your family." Poor guy. I would've skipped town long ago if I were him.</td> </tr> </table> <span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />Ah, Haroun al-Rashid. I'm definitely writing him as a villain eventually. <img src="images/smiles/icon_wink.gif" alt="Wink" border="0" /> <br /> <br />Actually, if I remember right there *was* a vizier named Jafar in the original, but he was a very minor character who just wanted his son to marry the princess; the sorcerer who wanted the lamp was a completely different character. I *think* it was Thief of Baghdad that first conflated the two... <br /> <br /></span> <table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"> <tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Syera wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">I've personally wondered if they pulled the name "Cassim" from the character who didn't make it into Disney's Aladdin movie.</td> </tr> </table> <span class="postbody">Well, it could be after him. But I like the Ali Baba theory because he actually has a connection with the 40 thieves. He was supposed to have broken into their cave and forgotten how to get out, and when the thieves came back and found him they excecuted him. So, what if they gave him the Challenge instead and he won...? <img src="images/smiles/icon_twisted.gif" alt="Twisted Evil" border="0" /></span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Jas</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2005 8:25 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span> <table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"> <tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Syera wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">I've personally wondered if they pulled the name "Cassim" from the character who didn't make it into Disney's Aladdin movie.</td> </tr> </table> <span class="postbody">Yep - "Kassim" (with a k for some reason <img src="images/smiles/icon_lol.gif" alt="Laughing" border="0" /> ) was one of Aladdin's three friends in the original version of Disney Aladdin.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Syera</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2005 5:38 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"><span style="font-style: italic">"Well, how about that, Mr. Doubting Mustafa?" <br />"You sure showed me. Now, about my three wishes..."</span> <br /> <br />What I meant by "original," by the way, was the traditional story of Aladdin. It happened to be transliterated as "Mustapha" in the version I saw, but it's the same name. <br /> <br />According to IMDb, the Popeye Aladdin came out in 1939 - that's the year Snow White came out, by the way. <br /> <br />There's more than one version of TToB. One version came out in 1924, but no names were given to the characters. (It was a silent film.) Another version came out in 1940 - this is where the names Abu and Jafar also appear. <br /> <br />"Jafar," by the way, was also the name of a vizier who appears in several stories in The Arabian Nights. He actually existed, and ended up executed in a horrible manner. No surprise... I'm telling you, Jafar's boss was insane. "Do this in two days or I'll kill you." "Do that in a week or I'll kill you and your family." Poor guy. I would've skipped town long ago if I were him. <br /> <br />I've personally wondered if they pulled the name "Cassim" from the character who didn't make it into Disney's Aladdin movie.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Calluna</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2005 5:09 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">When was the Popeye version made? I'll bet they're both based on Theif of Baghdad. <img src="images/smiles/icon_smile.gif" alt="Smile" border="0" /> <br /> <br />As for "doubting Mustafa"; I didn't remember them saying the name of Aladdin's father in the original, but I don't doubt it. And from then on they always translate the name Tom or Thomas as Mustafa. ("peeping Mustafa", etc. <img src="images/smiles/icon_lol.gif" alt="Laughing" border="0" /> ) <br /> <br />Oh, and that reminds me... <br /> <br />Aladdin's father Cassim is probably named after Ali Baba's greedy brother in Ali Baba and the Forty Thieves. <img src="images/smiles/icon_twisted.gif" alt="Twisted Evil" border="0" /></span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> </table>
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